Bitcoin Takeover Podcast
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Jeremy Rubin on CTV, Char & Building on Bitcoin
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00:00 Intro music & heat check
00:48 Podcast intro & the sponsor gauntlet
02:10 Saylor’s stablecoin staking vs Sideshift
02:37 Braiins: rent hash rate for Paul’s August altcoin
03:02 Four years of chasing Jeremy
03:24 Fifteen years in Bitcoin
03:41 The elephant in the room & CTV, formerly Secure the Bag
04:28 CTV + CSFS before the Knots takeover
04:44 Jeremy the scientist: freedom is the goal, not CTV
06:19 Scaling in time instead of space
06:40 Congestion control: the Coinbase bank run example
07:57 The vacation wallet: vaults without the buzzword
09:35 Moonsettler’s 10-hour CTV grievance
10:44 2022: speedy trial & the Telegram group
11:17 The sabbatical was burnout, not CTV
11:25 “Technical consensus”: you’ll know when you have it
13:11 150 signers on utxos.org meant nothing
13:45 The government censorship opcode FUD
14:42 A two-hour podcast without reading the BIP
16:00 “Where’s the right way?”
16:33 Vlad’s theory: Blockstream wanted their own CTV
16:47 What Jeremy & Adam Back have in common
17:05 “He’s at that little island over there”
17:45 Blockstream: real contributions, supremacy complex
19:23 Russell O’Connor’s thorough review
20:06 The hiring attempts & why MIT DCI stayed independent
21:44 Rusty Russell’s broken simplified CTV
22:54 Great Script Restoration: three years of fizzle
24:20 Institutionalized: credit cards at a Bitcoin conference
24:51 The $21 Cash App booth needs a US bank account
25:40 Saylor, Solana staking & paper Bitcoin
26:08 Hard base layer, centralized everything
26:51 The Uniswap example
28:10 The cypherpunks are not at these booths
28:40 What Bitcoin maximalism used to mean
29:52 The Peter Todd panel: “what do you think covenants are?”
31:19 The intellectual backflips of BitVM
31:52 Bitcoin Cash did a better job scaling (fight me)
33:55 CSFS adapted from BCH’s checkdatasig
35:39 The small blocker paradox: “we’re not doing anything”
36:12 Just make the blocks bigger: bizarro world
36:42 A Raspberry Pi can sync a BCH node
37:34 Why won’t covenant builders touch Bitcoin Cash?
38:41 Liquid: the acceptable ghost town
39:22 Enrich the libertarians or the establishment?
39:47 “If I build on Bitcoin, maybe I can save Bitcoin”
40:12 Programs have to run on Bitcoin (the JFK doctrine)
41:04 Monero, Zcash & stablecoins eating our lunch
42:12 The window of opportunity is narrowing
43:08 Jeremy on Paul’s Ecash fork (“not in his booth, man”)
44:35 The make-her-jealous game theory
45:31 It’s a network of people, not machines
46:47 The gun rights activist analogy
49:06 Taking Satoshi’s coins is a bad look
49:56 Satoshi today, Hal Finney tomorrow
50:39 BIP 361 & the quantum freeze debate
52:19 Quantum conjecture vs shipping CTV today
52:54 “Let people program Bitcoin”
53:54 Would Jeremy deploy CTV on Ecash? No.
55:22 Forks as free-market experiments with real incentives
55:54 The 21M cap is not in the whitepaper
56:14 BIP 42: a relic of a prior era
57:06 Bitcoin invites engineers to compromise their values
58:10 OP_CAT & the 520-byte stack limit
59:55 A loaded gun you pick up by the trigger
1:00:54 Users don’t care whose bug stole their money
1:01:56 The Cake Wallet question & Jeremy’s hard rule
1:02:34 Never install apps at conferences
1:03:30 Sideloading, mentalists & Gavin’s signature
1:04:24 He still wants the Zcash
1:04:30 Zcash: what Bitcoin should have become
1:06:01 What excites Jeremy: Char & the L2 breakthrough streak
1:06:46 Robin’s quantum-resistant hash signatures
1:08:16 Post-burnout: only work that feels good
1:09:30 “That’s not what you said to your wife last night”
1:10:38 Work disagreements are not personal
1:12:20 What is Char (and why it sounds like Charmander)
1:13:07 Lock BTC, sign once, or the miner sweeps
1:13:39 Pre-commitments: better-than-one-block latency
1:14:17 Why the sequencer must be decentralized
1:15:21 Proof of stake is just technology
1:17:20 Cheat in Char, lose Bitcoin
1:18:12 The scientist’s caveat: “we have done it correctly”
1:18:39 char.network & why he’s not bitter about CTV
1:19:29 Ron Paul rallies & auditing the Fed
1:20:24 Bitcoin has the most potential: don’t squander it
1:21:13 Agency: live like a protagonist
1:22:25 Sending the ZEC off camera
1:22:37 Outro & the 51% attack disclaimer (don’t sue me, Craig)
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