Bitcoin Takeover Podcast
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Marc De Mesel on Early Bitcoin Investing & Polygamy
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00:00 Intro
02:28 Welcome: Marc De Mesel, the Guardian Angel of Bitcoin Cash
03:49 The Trade: Selling BTC for BCH in August 2017
06:29 $300 Then vs. $300 Now: The Inflation Math
09:09 From Investor to Benefactor: Funding BCH Development
10:19 Amaury’s IFP: Treasury Model or Dev Tax?
13:24 Mike Hearn’s Prophecy & the Flipstarter Model
15:51 Bitcoin XT, Bitcoin Classic & the Article That Scared Vlad
17:28 Sponsors: SideShift & Layer 2 Labs
20:06 Why Bitcoin Cash Failed: Death by a Thousand Splits
24:33 Miner Voting vs. Forking Off
27:24 The Merchant Adoption Mistake
29:09 Vlad’s SegWit Argument: BCH Launched as Only 2x
33:28 The Spam Attack Theories
35:55 “Hijacking Bitcoin”: The Store of Value Narrative Shift
38:07 Never Sell, Borrow Against It: The Saylor Doctrine
41:38 Stablecoins as the Free Market CBDC
43:19 Saylor’s Leverage & the Dot-Com Track Record
46:42 Weak Hands and Strong Hands
49:00 Marc’s Altcoin Origin: Litecoin, Peercoin & 2012
52:04 Network Effects: From 90% to 50% Dominance
56:39 The Bear Market Liquidation Scenario
58:01 Sponsors: Braiins Hash Power, Orange Rock & Cake Wallet
1:00:53 Q&A: If Satoshi Returned and Disowned BCH
1:02:53 Q&A: A Contrarian Opinion Too Far
1:06:54 Q&A: Why Hold Tesla Through Five Flat Years
1:11:05 Giveaway Reveal: The Number Is 69
1:12:15 CME Bitcoin Cash Futures & the Thesis Update
1:13:52 Privacy as Crypto’s Last USP
1:15:12 Vlad’s Pushback: Transparent Ledgers vs. Bank Privacy
1:21:48 What BTC Maximalists Missed in 2017
1:26:43 Marc’s First Bitcoin at $13 on Bitcoin-24
1:31:28 Selling Too Early & Roger’s Slower Hand
1:35:51 Privacy Coins as Today’s Bitcoin-at-$1
1:41:36 The Zcash 40x
1:46:30 The Privacy Basket: XMR, ZEC, Zano, Firo, ARRR, Dash
1:48:17 Visiting Roger Ver Under House Arrest in Mallorca
1:52:26 Zcoin, Firo & the Week Before Zcash
1:55:16 Cryptonote, Bytecoin & the Monero Lineage
2:05:01 The Biggest Wrong Assumption: Adoption Speed
2:07:51 USDT in the Global South
2:11:47 Conviction vs. Stubbornness
2:17:29 NFTs on Zcash
2:22:12 Shielded Zcash Adoption: Vlad Corrects the Record
2:28:33 Selling Strength: Marc’s Zcash Dilemma
2:35:16 Rebuilding the Portfolio From Zero
2:40:46 The Holy Grail Portfolio & the 2022 Wipeout
2:46:22 Bitcoin, Tesla or BCH: Which Taught the Most?
2:49:06 The Guardian Angel Costume Question
2:51:40 The Dating Profile Question
2:59:48 From Dating Sites to Cold Approach
3:09:18 From Monogamy to Polygamy
3:17:15 Does Polygamy Go Both Ways?
3:20:28 Seven Children and Counting
3:21:57 The Kenya Years & the Court Cases
3:27:12 What It Costs
3:30:44 Living Arrangements & Family Structure
3:38:29 Old-School Fatherhood
3:52:58 Trust Across Cultures
3:57:32 The Tesla Model X in Amsterdam
3:59:27 Buying Tesla in 2019: Sentiment at Rock Bottom
4:04:20 Robotaxis, Humanoids & Chinese EVs
4:05:29 Vlad’s Toyota Supra Dream
4:08:07 Eastern European Honesty
4:20:14 Plan B If Alt Season Never Comes
4:21:07 The 20% Target & Where to Follow Marc
4:22:28 Closing Advice: HODL & Spotting the Top
4:26:22 The Flip Scenario: What If BCH Wins?
4:27:31 “I Was a Real Whale Once”
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