Bitcoin Takeover Podcast
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S17 E51
Martti Malmi on Iris, NostrVPN and Freedom Tech
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00:00 Intro
00:47 Welcome: Martti at Bitcoin Amsterdam
01:52 The history panel he would rather skip
03:06 How Nostr brought him back
03:54 NostrVPN: Tailscale without the company
05:19 Coordination servers and a Mac Mini
07:51 GPT-6 Astra and seven Codex subscriptions
09:40 Iris Chat, Iris Drive and 20 other apps
10:35 Software is no longer a business model
12:14 What listeners should try
15:35 Vlad's Nostr problem: same names, more bots
17:42 Bullish on Nostr in a bear market
18:31 Building for agents, or for humans?
20:00 Permissionlessness
20:45 Bitcoin as a family of projects
23:09 When network effects dissolve
25:20 Sponsors: SideShift, Cake Wallet, eCash, Braiins Hashpower, Orange Rock
32:16 Self-custody and payments that just work
37:10 Store of value, Square and BTCPay
38:21 Lightning, iPhones and tap to pay
40:14 Human slop and a website rebuilt with AI
41:57 He set up bitcoin.org's WordPress
43:17 The year he wrote no code
45:33 A romantic on longevity
48:00 Copies, consciousness and Michael Pollan
49:22 Bitcoin, GPUs and the AI power story
52:27 Talking to agents more than to people
54:26 Making things is easy. Getting anyone to care is not
57:53 Kids leaving university, and Movie Maker
1:01:02 Is he still optimistic about Bitcoin?
1:02:49 The next bull market: agents with wallets
1:03:19 Satoshi sent dollars in an envelope
1:05:23 "I hope you sold early"
1:07:53 Recap: NostrVPN, Iris Chat and the other apps
1:09:38 Fifty percent optimistic
1:10:37 Sirius Black and the brightest star
1:12:45 Thank you and goodbye
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