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S16 E63 · 2:06:58 · 19 Dec 2025

S16 E63: David Bailey on NAKAMOTO, BTC Media & The Bull Market

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David Bailey is the chairman of Bitcoin Magazine, the organizer of the most successful series of Bitcoin conferences, and the mastermind behind the Nakamoto BTC treasury company. In this episode, we talk about his latest business dealings and the current state of the Bitcoin bull market.

Time stamps:

00:01:47 Bitcoin Magazine’s Bitcoin-Only Pivot

00:02:17 Surviving 2018 and the COVID Pivot

00:04:09 Scaling Up: Conferences and Global Expansion

00:05:11 Bringing Politicians to Bitcoin

00:07:35 Trump’s Embrace of Bitcoin and Global Perception

00:09:48 Bitcoin Price Expectations and Political Impact

00:10:56 Presidential Pardons and the Lack of a Strategic Bitcoin Reserve

00:14:10 Trump Meme Coins and Industry Signals

00:17:07 Privacy, Regulation, and Privacy Acceleration Thanks to Zcash

00:20:53 Nakamoto Stock Price and Public Company Challenges

00:23:00 Bitcoin Treasury Companies: Purpose and Model

00:24:40 Evolution of Bitcoin Financialization (Banks, ETFs, Strategic Reserves, Reserve Companies)

00:35:42 David Bailey Addresses Accusations of Mismanagement

00:44:00 Bitcoin Price, Narratives, and Community Factions

00:45:05 Bullish Narratives and Breaking the Four-Year Cycle

00:46:21 Core vs. Knots: Development and Forks

00:49:35 Bitcoin Improvement Proposals and Development Stagnation

00:50:28 Jeremy Rubin in the Epstein Files, Bitcoin's Public Perception

00:54:01 Trump, Epstein, and Political Distractions

00:55:00 Bitcoin.com’s Shift and Roger Ver Reflections

01:01:48 BCH Fork, Losses, and Historical Lessons

01:02:41 Conspiracy Theories: Censorship and Satoshi’s Coins Post-Quantum

01:05:00 Quantum Risk and Bitcoin’s Long-Term Security

01:10:24 Altcoins: Legitimacy and Usefulness

01:18:11 Ethereum, Solana, and Bitcoin’s Competitive Edge

01:22:27 Bitcoin’s Youth and Historical Significance

01:22:58 Operation Choke Point 3.0 and Wall Street Resistance

01:30:20 Would David Bailey Become Crypto Czar?

01:34:04 Why Invest in Nakamoto?

01:37:28 Comparing Treasury Companies

01:40:28 If You Could Change One Thing in Bitcoin: Drivechains

01:42:03 Security Budget, Scaling, and Miner Incentives

01:46:50 Bitcoin Price Predictions and the Four-Year Cycle

01:55:02 Social Media, Narratives, and Bitcoin Culture

01:58:24 Bitcoin as Money and Regulatory Setbacks

02:03:13 Closing Thoughts and Pardons

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