Glad that worked, it's a pain that the dependencies are so big and hard to build. Some of them give little attention to the Windows build. Next time I update to the latest versions, maybe I'll lay everything out in one directory tree and bundle the whole thing up into a giant archive. I'm not sure they had wxPack before. I'm glad they got that so everyone doesn't have to build wxWidgets themselves. OpenSSL is the harder one to build. I reduced the EXE size by running strip.exe on it to take out the debug symbols. That's with mingw. That's the better compiler, I only used VC for debugging. mmalmi@cc.hut.fi wrote: